|What Is Site About ?|
An in-depth analytical study on ISKCON's controversial Rtvik-Guru issue.
|Why Should I View It ?|
ISKCON has long been fractured over this issue. The majority of Srila Prabhupad's disciples have left his movement either directly or indirectly over the "Guru Issue" in one form or the other. One way or another it is an issue that affects all members of ISKCON. And the issue is not going to simply go away. The arguments and the supporting evidence that the GBC has been wrong on the founding principles of this issue are many and too solid to ignore.
Therefore, each and every follower of Srila Prabhupad needs to take the time to review the evidence and arguments given on both sides. For decades many have only heard the GBC side. This presentation is an attempt to review the historical evidence and analyze the arguments from both sides of this dividing topic.
Ameyatma das, the producer and author of this site, has sat on both sides of the fence on this issue. Years of analytical discovery has led me, personally, however, to the hard-fast conclusion that the GBC has been wrong regarding the fundamental basics of this issue.
Even though I, and most of the members of ISKCON, recognized there were major problems with the overall Guru system or systems the GBC promoted and tinkered with, nevertheless up into 1997 I upheld the GBC promoted idea that an on-going rtvik representative system by which Srila Prabhupad could still take disciples even after he has physically departed was fundamentally bogus and philosophically baseless and just plain wrong. I wrote articles in defeat of the ongoing Rtvik Representative issue, for which Tamal Krishna expressed his gratitude and asked me to continue to write in support of the GBC.
However, in 1998 while researching what started out as a totally different topic related to how the GBC can regain the respect of the devotees that it had once held, but was now lacking in the 1990's, I discovered an instruction by Srila Prabhupad in his Last Will that was clearly not being obeyed. It is a long story. I will explain this incident in detail as a suppliment entitled "My Personal Story".
It was this incident that began to place me at philosophical odds with the GBC.
To learn more, please view the video on "My Personal Story". In the end it was this incident that forced me to finally research the Rtvik issue for myself. I had been avoiding the issue for a long time for several reasons that I explain in my personal story. But, this incident forced me to finally take a close and serious look at the issue.
It should be noted that back in 1998 when I finally sat down to study the Rtvik issue and the evidence directly myself, I actually did so with the determination to write more articles supporting the GBC position and defeating the so-called Rtvik idea. I set out to put an end to the debate by totally debunking the whole idea.
Instead, the more I researched, the more questions I had, and the more I began to realize it was actually not a bogus idea, and rather it was what Srila Prabhupad wanted.
As I said, my research led me to asking some poignant questions, but when I raised these questions and concerns to the GBC, they answered with cold, dark silence. I even pleaded with them, begging them to please help me, save me from going astray and falling subject to a deviant philosophical conclusion by answering my questions and defeating the conclusions I was reaching. But, over and over as I wrote them on this topic, their reply was the darkness of silence. I then asked for a public debate, again, cold dark silence.
I find their refusal to discuss this issue as another sign of their failure to properly execute their service and duties of their GBC post.
Many years have gone by, and now I have no doubts as to my conclusions. I finally decided to produce this AV online presentation to try to help others by educating them and as a means to present 'our' side, or at least 'my' side or my views on this challenging topic.
It is obvious that this presentation is made in support of what has become known as the "Rtvik" issue. However, since I have stood on both sides, I have tried to fairly present the arguments for both sides. We do not want to color the facts, but simply present the truth. This site is my attempt to present these views in a sober way, based on analytical research and deduced logic. I have also made an attempt to be as open minded, compassionate, understanding and as fair as I can concerning the GBC side. It has long been the stand of many who oppose the view of the GBC on this issue to often demonize the GBC side and attack the personalities and characters of the 'new' or 'current gurus'. In my own personal realization and also in this presentation I try to avoid that path. I have always tried to remain on good terms with all followers of Srila Prabhupad, whether I agree or disagree with their views on this or other topics. However, at times, as it is necessary to present the factual history of what took place we may need to say some unflatering remarks of some of the Gurus or GBC men. We only do so as we see necessary in presenting the facts of what took place.
However, it should also be pointed out that the GBC side has dealt harshly on those who do not accept their views. We are presenting our views in an open, sober, philosophically based and as fair way we can, thus we ask for likewise from the GBC side. There are many who call themselves supporters of the Rtvik side who readily and openly try to 'bash' and derride the GBC supported Gurus or specific members. I have avoided that path personally, and I have always distanced myself from them. Srila Prabhupad also had disagreements with many of his God brothers and the way they had destroyed Bhaktisiddhanta's Gaudiya Math. Yet, he didn't dwell on demonizing those God brothers and broadcasting their faults. However, he did, now and then, speak of and even wrote, in a factual way, what took place and how and why his God brothers were wrong. He even spoke and wrote how his dear God brother and friend Sridhar Maharaj was responsible for heading the Gaudiya Math in the wrong direction regarding this same issue, the Guru issue, yet, at the same time he also remained very friendly with Sridhar, going to his ashram and speaking with him as old friends, inviting Sridhar to Prabhupad's ISKCON centers, etc. He remained on good friendly terms, he wasn't into bashing, or demonizing, his God brothers. Yet, when Srila Prabhupad saw it necessary to inform us of what happened, Srila Prabhupad presented the facts as he understood them, and at times blamed even his dear friend for his wrong decisions.
I see that the majority of members of both sides are fundamentally sincere in their desire to serve and please Srila Prabhupad. No follower of Srila Prabhupad, no direct disciple, should be unduely or unfairly demonized by either party. The souls who have surrendered their lives to the devotional service of Radha-Krishna are extremely rare in this world. Extremely rare among such devotees of Krishna are the great acaryas and pure devotees. More rare among the pure devotees are those who are empowered representatives of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krishna. HDG A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, is such an extremely rare empowered direct representative of Krishna. Among the great devotees and past acaryas since the appearance of Lord Sri Krishna, he stands out as one of the greatest of all time. Thus, his direct disciples and all of his followers are also very rare and special in this world.
How can any of us honor and respect Srila Prabhupad if we do not honor and respect his followers and his direct disciples - irregardless of where they may stand on this one or other issues? However, to accurately understand this issue, we must avail ourselves to all the facts. At times this means that to present the evidence and accurately understand the circumstances we must be aware of the mistakes and fall-downs of the GBC as a whole and some of the 'new gurus'. Knowing the truth will help us in making the right decisions. The darkness of ignorance will not help us. Therefore an attempt is made to both respect the individuals and still present and know the truth as needed. I strongly urge both sides to observe the principle that each and everyone of Srila Prabhupad's disciples should be shown the respect they deserve as rare and wonderful souls who have given their lives, their hearts and souls, to the service of His Divine Grace, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, irregardless of which side they or you stand on this one issue. The GBC has been wrong regarding this issue in the past, and have admitted to being wrong. Their past track-record and history shows us that the GBC has, at times, failed to understand this issue, the devistating fall out from the failed Zonal Acarya system, which at one time the GBC hailed as being thee system that "Srila Prabhupad" wanted, a system they had fiercely promoted and bitterly defended, yet years later, after alienating the majoity of Srila Prabhupad's disciples over the issue, abandoned the system after finally recognizing that it was, in the end, concocted and destructive and not actually based on any instructions by Srila Prabhupad.
Therefore, we all need to take the time to educate ourselves, personally, individually, on this topic and the historical evidence and historical events that shaped this topic over the years. This website is the humble attempt by it's author/producer to render Srila Prabhupad the service of trying to make this information readily available and easily understandable by all. Please take the time to view the full site, and encourage everyone you know to do the same. The presentation can also be downloaded so that it can be burned on to DVD discs for presenting to others offline in areas that have no or too slow Internet access.
|What Is Needed To View It ?|
The site is produced in a 3D Animated Audio-Visual format for viewing via a webGL / HTML5 compatible Internet browsers. While most of the current releases of the major browsers should now be webGL and HTML5 compliant, a high-speed internet is needed due to the videos and overall presentation size. Also, because we have used an interactive 3D format, it also requires a capable graphics processor to view the presentations.
-Chrome browser recommended (FireFox and Safari will work). Only IE (Internet Explorer) 11 or higher supports webGL. WebGL is a new web based 3D graphics engine. I think IE 11 may only be available for Windows 8.1, so if you have older version of Windows you will need to use a different browser, like Chrome or a Chrome plug-in for IE. Either are free (and we would strongly suggest installing and using Chrome).
-Speakers / Headphones are needed and sound must be turned on.
-High speed Internet access is needed
-Cookies must be enabled
A text only version of the site is not available and none is planned at this time.
The presentation can also be downloaded so that it can be burned on DVD discs for presenting to others offline in areas that have no or too slow Internet access.
This web site is designed to automatically scale to fit your browser window, and should be viewable on most display sizes from tablets to HD desktop monitors.
It is best displayed Full Screen on a HD monitor.
The presentation 'can' run on some smart phones, but at this time most of those we tested either the phone web browers do not support webGL or the graphics processors on the smart phones are too weak to run our presentations properly or well enough to be of any use.
On Windows plateform it is recommended that you press the Full Screen button (on our A/V control panel) or the "F11" key to view the presentation Full Screen without any border frames. Simply press the same button, ESC or F11-again to return to normal broswer view.
-->> 3D << [NOTE: The following may not be supported in the final version] - The website will also run in stereoscopic 3D on some setups. If you have a 3D monitor you can sellect interlaced 3D, otherwise you will need Red/Blue type 3D glasses to view the presentation in Anaglyphic 3D.
What Is The Media Used To Deliver The Presentations On This Site ? |
(For the technically curious, not needed to know to be able to use this site.)
|Table of Contents page|
The Table of Contents ( ToC ) offers more detailed links to the sub-sections of each major section of the presentation (as opposed to the Navigation Bar Menu which only provide links to the few major sections). From the ToC you can view all of the links to the presentation's content, and, if you have your web browser's Cookies enabled (it is enabled by default in most browsers), you can Tag or flag different sections as 'Viewed', 'not Viewed', and "Important'. These allow you to view what you can at one setting and know exactly where you left off hours or even days or weeks later. It also allows you to tag specific sections as Important for later referrence. You will want to return to the Table of Contents often. You may want to bookmark that page rather than the home page.
|Audio/Visual Presentation Controls|
Once you select a presentation to view, a new page will load in. Once loaded there will come up a simple control panel.
PLAY starts the presentation
MENU brings up the Navigation Menu
HOME brings up the Home page PREV takes you back to the PREVIOUS section as listed in the Table of Contents list
NEXT takes you forward to the NEXT section as listed in the Table of Contents list
AUTO PLAY selects or de-selects the Auto Play feature. When selected the presentations will automatically begin playing after the page loads.
FULL SCRN (or F11) puts the presentation in Full Screen (highly recommended)
There is also a volume level bar where you can select the current volume level
Time, current playing location and length of presentation is shown, as well as a progress bar.
You can drag the Current Time indicator left or right to Rewind and Fast Forward to anywhere in the presentation at anytime (just as you would via a video). It is really quite simple and straight forward.
Once a presentation has completed the control panel will again come up. You can view the next presentation listed in the Table of Contents by pressing NEXT, or you can use the Navigation Menu to select your next choice, or goto the Table of Contents from the Menu to select your next choice.
Remember, the Table Of Contents has the feature of allowing you to Tag each section yourself manually. After viewing a presentation it is a good idea to go into Table of Contents and flag it as Viewed.
Taking control of the Camera :
You can also take control of the camera and move the camera around in the scene. You can zoom in/out, dolly in/out, pan left/right and up/down and rotate the camera in the scene. Each scene is built as a 3D set and this allows you to interactively move the camera view around in real time while the presentation is being played. In some scenes the program may block or restrict or reset camera location at times.
3D camera controls:
Middle Mouse Wheel : dollys camera in/out
Left Mouse Button (holding down) and moving the mouse : Tumble or rotate the camera around at it's focus point
Right Mouse Button (holding down) and moving the mouse : You can select and move around 'some' of the 3D objectes in the scene
Keyboard Cursor Keys : Up / Down / Left / Right pan the camera in those directions
(Holding the SHIFT key + the cursor keys speeds up the panning, and holding CNTRL key + cursor keys goes even faster)
Cursor Up/Down + 'D' key : Dolly the Camera In/Out
Cursor Up/Down + 'F' key : Change the Focal Length (zoom setting) of the lens, from extreme wide angle to far far telephoto
'R' key will RESET the camera and movable 3D objects to the presentation's proper or programmed location
Future Use of the Presentation System we developed:
The presentation system we have created and used to present our Analysis of the Rtvik issue has been developed with the aim of using the same presentation system to produce online A/V presentations of Prabhupad's Bhagavat Philosophy. Online 3D museum sets with Audio and 3D animation to present our philosophy. This is our main goal and intended use for creating this presentation system.
We simply decided, however, that the first presentation we make will be for ISKCON internally, and present our analysis on the Rtvik issue. As soon as production for the Rtvik site is complete we will focus on an interactive 3D animated presentation on Bhagavad Gita As It Is.